Monday, 5 September 2011

Oh, So we're Eurorealists now?

Bill Cash, Conservative MP - Stone, has released a 'pamphlet' "It's the EU, Stupid" and posts on Conservative Home, the latter in which he writes:
"The question to be asked of the voters, which must be embedded in the Referendum Bill itself, should be on a simple majority whether they wish a) to leave the European Union or b) to renegotiate our relationship with the European Union into a trading association of nation states with political cooperation. This would present the voters with a clear choice and the outcome would depend on which of the two questions achieved more than 50% of those who voted."
It is in Cash's pamphlet that the term 'Eurorealist' appears, where Cash writes:
"There are those who would wish, as ever, to divide the Eurorealist movement – but the questions that need to be answered by them is who has been proved right over the years and in what respects have they been wrong? It would be helpful to say the least that if those who wish to divide the Eurorealists would come out with transparent and candid arguments and to say what they really want and to what extent they support Government policy and if so, why?"
There is no doubting Cash's detailed knowledge of matters EU, but it is intriguing that for one so anti-EU, or so he would have us believe, his name does not appear on the Better Off Out website, a fact I mentioned in this post.All of which leads me to believe that our William is about to 'Cash' in..........

Another politician who would have us believe he is anti-EU is Daniel Hannan, yet when provided with an opportunity to state that,  it would appear he refuses so to do. I refer to this report in EurActiv in which he is quoted on Andrew Duff's call for the creation a bigger European budget, an EU treasury, a European Monetary Fund and sanctions for countries lacking budget discipline. Hannan is quoted thus:
"..that's their call. The only thing that is my immediate concern as a British representative – and this ought to apply to Andrew Duff, too, come to that – is to ensure that, if Britain is being asked to give its approval to fiscal union within EU legal structures, we get something in return."
Some may say I am being unfair to Hannan, who is a signatory to Better Off Out, but I would counter that the phrase "we get something in return" is hardly that of someone who professes to be anti-EU - more like someone who is prepared to accept this 'repatriation-thingy' which I have stated previously just ain't going to happen.

All this talk of repatriation of powers is, to a certain extent, empty rhetoric for two reasons; namely the EU would never agree and secondly, neither will Nick Clegg who is adamant there will be no such repatriation - which makes rather a mess of Cameron's Conservative motto of "In Europe, but not run by Europe", one which converts that to "In Europe, and kept there by the Liberal Democrats". So David Cameron is in power but not in power, in that he no longer governs this nation due to his acceptance of EU membership; and also what little he can do, he can't because of Nick Clegg.

It would seem that had we a Prime Minister who had a backbone; believed in his own nation and listened to it's people and adhered to his Privy Councillor Oath; an opportunity to walk away from the EU has been presented by Gerhard Schroeder who believes that "Great Britain causes the greatest problems..". Had we such a Prime Minister, instead of the present lily-livered, treasonous and therefore dictatorial office holder that we presently have, he would counter that by informing the EU that as we are not wanted, we're off!

It is regrettable that unfortunately we don't - and he won't!



9 comments:

PeterCharles said...

"The question to be asked of the voters, ..., should be ... whether they wish a) to leave the European Union or b) to renegotiate our relationship with the European Union into a trading association of nation states with political cooperation. This would present the voters with a clear choice ...."

Just how deceitful can you get? That 'choice' is utter bollocks, if you would pardon the word. He must know full well that choice b) has absolutely no chance of ever being realised, short of EU collapse after which it may well be the best that can be achieved in the short term while still holding out hope that the 'project' might yet be resurrected. At best a vote for b) would simply maintain the status quo.

"There are those who would wish, as ever, to divide the Eurorealist movement ..." On this performance he is certainly one of them!

How can anyone take these fools seriously?

TomTom said...

Tomorrow Italy will have a General Strike. They are very unhappy with the idea of spending cuts just as Berlusconi is unhappy with taxes on the rich.....nothing compared to how angry Germans are.

Here on Fantasy Island the media is enveloped in a cloud of pot smoke inhaling before injecting.

When has Britain ever been aware of what is going on in Europe ? Certainly not in 1914 nor in 1939....and blithely stews in the juices of ignorance.

Well....this time they will have to consider that the IAEA thinks Iran has secret stockpiles of nuclear materials sufficient for 4 bombs. Sarkozy gave a speech on 31 August threatening a pre-emptive strike on Iran.

Turkey is irritating quite a few people in the Middle East and now the USA.

Perhaps the dimwit British might get a lesson in how world events encroach upon their cosy little world of Westminster and White City and Media Fantasyland.

Another October Crash could bring some real nasties to light. I don't think Bill Cash is relevant any more, he is simply an old buffer with an obsession.....the real war is just starting

Sue said...

Perhaps they've seen the blogs and decided we've besmirched the word Eurosceptic :)

WitteringsfromWitney said...

PC: 'Bollocks'? On this blog? How about 'Spheroids'? 'Sok, I jest as I know that sometimes one becomes so incandescent that one can lose the power of speech..... :)

Could not agree more with that which you write. AS TT, who follows you, say Cash is becoming more and more irrelevant.

TT: See above.

"Perhaps the dimwit British might get a lesson in how world events encroach upon their cosy little world of Westminster and White City and Media Fantasyland."

Superb comment, if I may say so?

microdave said...

"A trading association of nation states" "With political cooperation."

I vaguely remember being told we were going to be part of the former - I DON'T recall any mention of the latter...

Can I have some compensayshun please?? After all, there are plenty of firms offering to help me reclaim mis-sold PPI, and deal with accidents I haven't been involved in....

WitteringsfromWitney said...

md: :)

WitteringsfromWitney said...

Sue: we live in hope.......!

James Higham said...

All touting anti-EU credentials which turn to dust.

WitteringsfromWitney said...

JH: So it would seem......