Thursday, 29 September 2011

People? What the hell do their views matter?

So 'Angular' Merkel (more 'rotundular' methinks, not that I am attempting to 'shape' anyone's views) has won her vote 523 to 85 with 3 abstentions to expand the £380bn bail-out fund, regardless of the fact that just a few days earlier an opinion poll* showed that 75% of those asked rejected the idea.

In the United Kingdom a majority of those asked want an in/out referendum on membership of the European Union, yet the Cameron/Clegg/MilibandE triumvirate refuse to grant same. Rather than deal with matters of importance Cameron would rather discuss one-use plastic bags**, while MilibandE would rather talk about "Ed Nose Day". As for Clegg, well instead of being the "Last of the Summer Wine", he just became the first of the summer whine.

The EU and Heads of State all discuss "sovereignty". Now, I always thought that "sovereignty" meant the government of a state was meant to have an effective and independent system of government pursuant to a community within a defined territory, namely their own; likewise that democracy meant that all people have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives; that this includes equal (and more or less direct) participation in the proposal, development and passage of legislation into law; and that it also encompasses social, economic and cultural conditions.

That is why this country must immediately cease membership of the EU and why our present system of democracy is wrong and why it needs changing. That we do not have an effective and independent system of government whilst a member of the EU is beyond doubt; but also there is another problem with our present system of democracy. All people do not have an equal say in the decisions that affect their lives; neither do they have a equal or direct participation in any proposal, development and passage of any legislation into law.

There is another question that arises, which is, namely, if people are meant to have an equal, or direct, say in decisions that affect their lives, if they are to have an equal or direct participation in the formation of law, why does government exist in a democracy? To meet the requirements of those definitions offered two paragraphs previously, then should we not adopt a form of democracy based on that practised by Switzerland?

Just asking............

Afterthought: The EU is full of vociferous idiots - unfortunately, it would seem, the UK is full of silent idiots..........

** H/T Calling England


Sue said...

How long do you think we can keep justifying leaving the EU without going crazy? It's starting to get to me again. Where is that fuckwit Cameron?

WitteringsfromWitney said...

Sue: Hang on in there lass, their day of reckoning will come, it will be bloody - and we will enjoy it!

john in cheshire said...

One scenario :
Coup d'etat by the military.
Immediate withdrawal from the EU
and incarceration of all politicans and senior civil servants; martial law declared.
Immediate recall of all troops from overseas assignments.
EU declares some kind of war against UK for illegal withdrawal from EU
French-led forces begin to mass on their Northern shores, across from UK, with like-minded socialists (Germany too?)
European war commences.
USA, now socialised by Obama, comes in on the side of the EU forces.

Anonymous said...

More likely is a war for the destruction of WMDs in Iran.

Its all coming to a head. Euro crisis, sovereign debt, default, food riots, Iran on the rampage, Palestinians going for broke, Obama needing a Gulf war feather in his cap for his re-election.

Besides when the SHF, the elite need an external war to pacify and unify the people. The last thing they want is serious unrest or civil war in Europe, where they get the blame.

Besides, the weather will be right for action in the Gulf area between January and March.

kenomeat said...

Which is the easier way of getting Britain out of the EU; violent revolution or persuading a majority of citizens to vote UKIP? If a UKIP government reneged on a promise to leave the EU then I would advocate revolt. Otherwise we should start our campaign of persuasion. We have until 2015 so plenty of time to at least make UKIP responsible for toppling Cameron.

A K Haart said...

I agree with kenomeat. Of the levers available (and there aren't many) UKIP is probably the most credible.

TomTom said...

The German Political Class has voted to fund 211 Billion Euros for EFSF and yet German Tax Revenues are only 247 Billion Euros with Spending of 306 Billion Euros.

With a 20% Contingency and Interest Charges it is estimated that German Politicians today voted 400 Billion Euros in commitments.

Clearly arithmetic is still not a subject Politicians are required to master. Germany which has a National Debt of 1762 Billion Euros or 73% GDP in contrast to Great Britain with 950 Billion Euros (68% GDP) is certainly flirting with economic disaster

German Taxpayer Federation

WitteringsfromWitney said...

jic: Nice dream....... Outcome, we wipe the floor with them..... (You can dream, so can I)

k & AKH: Agree - if and when UKIP actually wake up.......!

Which is why I still think it will be bloody.......

TT: Agreed!As they can't manage their own 'accounts' what chance when the numbers get bigger????

john in cheshire said...

WfW, mine's a nightmare, not a dream. I don't think we can survive this time. Too many enemies against us, including our own 5th. column muslim immigrants.
Still, it's been nice weather today.

WitteringsfromWitney said...

jic: C'mon, get a grip! Where's that British spirit? Never, ever will I submit.....!

john in cheshire said...

Of course, you're right. Sorry, lapse of concentration.