On my post "Control of the people" one commenter said:
"WFW, the Cricket Bat was used to good effect by one small shopkeeper during the recent riots. It has form in anti rioter situations.
Seriously, I used to frequent pubs where the various landlords were known (amongst other variations) to keep a loaded shotgun (Blanks wadded with sand) and a cut down pickaxe handle behind the bar. As far as the more peaceful pub goers were concerned these were simply 'cultural' weapons for the rowdier Saturday nights.
The simple knowledge that these things were available was a deterrent."
To which I replied:
"BS: Nothing more satisfying than a good 'four' or 'six', is there..... :)
Following on from your pub landlords example, were it known that people could lawfully carry a gun and that unacceptable behaviour might lead to the attacker getting his head blown off, it might just reduce the crime rate......?"
A few minutes later, I notice this on EUReferendum...........
Once again, just asking........................
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WFW, My examples came from rural pubs (Aye, lad, when pubs were pubs and drinkers were drinkers) in the late 70's and up to the late 80's. Some landlords kept big dogs, a group of seriously 'heavy' mates, or a ferociously loyal clientelle. It was pretty much down to the individual landlord.
The principle was; 'cause a ruckus and you'll bounce on the way out'. All personal disputes to be settled in the car park.
BS: Seems a reasonable method of keeping order.......
Only difference is your examples mean people may bounce out, whilst mine would mean people got carried out more often than in a body bag....
WFW, Body bags? That's a bit extreme. If someone's in a body bag they can't make restitution for their drunken misdeeds. Which was how it used to work; get thrown out of the pub (with bruises) for bad behaviour and you were banned. Apologise and pay for the damage, and you were let back in on good behaviour (Providing you didn't do it again). That's a bit hard to do if you're dead.
The key terms here are remorse and restitution. Without that, the ban was permanent. Exile from your drinking companions or 'social death', as it is melodramatically called nowadays.
The key terms here are remorse and restitution. Without that, the ban was permanent. Exile from your drinking companions or 'social death', as it is melodramatically called nowadays.
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A bit like the smoking ban then.
BS: Fair comment......
A: True......
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