tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post8758043413502636292..comments2023-09-24T01:25:13.638-07:00Comments on Witterings from Witney: More on our democratic deficitWitteringsfromWitneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-19005162041698175272011-05-30T11:48:49.762-07:002011-05-30T11:48:49.762-07:00A: If the UK remains as a whole then yes an Englis...A: If the UK remains as a whole then yes an English Parliament is another layer of govt - if not then yes an English Parliament would be needed.<br /><br />Small Parliament less MPs as dealing with only defence, immigration, foreign affairs, remainder dealt with at local level and on a 'yearly contract' per "Referism".<br /><br />I rpt whats not to like?WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-84337611529197730252011-05-29T02:55:45.721-07:002011-05-29T02:55:45.721-07:00The anti eu groups think an English Parliament is ...The anti eu groups think an English Parliament is a pro european plot.The pro eu groups think an English Parliament is an anti eu plot,which is it?<br />An English Parliament does not mean another layer of politicians and expense. That is the same argument put about as the pro europeans and is a lie.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-61151274062748015012011-05-28T03:03:27.537-07:002011-05-28T03:03:27.537-07:00cuffleyb: Pleased to see you 'getting on board...cuffleyb: Pleased to see you 'getting on board', however on the matter of 20% ofM MPs being elected annually, I much prefer the idea of an annual licence to act idea proposed by North.<br /><br />TGM: I take you point,however would counter that their revolution is one still in progress and as such cannot be counted as successful until it is finished.WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-13160106900034882742011-05-28T02:09:57.452-07:002011-05-28T02:09:57.452-07:00"No revolution ever succeeded by working with..."No revolution ever succeeded by working within the system."<br /><br />Wrong. The Fabian Society was founded a century agao to do just that. he objective was to bring about a "Socialist World Order" and it has succeeded. Fabian thinking now dictates the modern political ideologies of all parties, it pervades the philosophy taught in our schools and universities and it dominates the thinking within the civil service and the political classes, the media and particularly the BBC and those who espouse and promote Political Correctness.<br /><br />It has never been overt, it is subtle, incidious and entirely responsible for the mess our government is now, and the erosion of our rights and our democracy. It has undermined everything in our society.<br /><br />I'd say that's a successful revolution.The Gray Monkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13243748164095781725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-30207722184034373722011-05-28T01:20:57.185-07:002011-05-28T01:20:57.185-07:00North is on the right track, but other improvement...North is on the right track, but other improvements would be to re-elect 20% of MPs every year. If there was a genuine open-primary system in operation this would tend strongly to improve the quality of MPs and the assiduity of their work to represent their constitutuents.<br /><br />The idea of devolving all health, education and Loranorder (and of course planning) issues to county or metropolitan level is a very good one.<br /><br />In order to win this important battle we have to understand why we are where we are - which is thanks largely to Gramsci and his left admirers who have with the aid of the soviet union and the connivance of western governments spent 70 years since the defeat of fascism, inculating a culture of collecivist failure in the youth and the humanist institutions of the western world. The EU is rotten with it and is indeed a flower of it, the GB is its greatest achievement - this glorious nation which has despite its ups and downs given voice to Adam Smith, JS Mill, invented soft religion (the anglican church was for long enough essentially benign) defeated slavery, napoleon kaiser bill and hitler is now to all intents and purposes controlled by the BBC and the likes of Sharon fucking Shoesmith. Ed Miliband FFS. <br /><br />That is the struggle before us and it will take a generation, but the alternative is to spend our collective dotage shouting at the TV.cuffleyburgersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-38191689999788542952011-05-27T18:37:59.493-07:002011-05-27T18:37:59.493-07:00Part One. A leading voice who baulks at leadership...Part One. A leading voice who baulks at leadership is not to be followed.<br /><br />Part Two. Politicians are corrupt, but leadership we need will not be corrupt.<br /><br />Part Three. It is a sign of our own corruption that we cannot believe in pure-heartedness.<br /><br />Part Four. If we are corrupt, then we will not see real leadership when it comes. <br /><br />Anonymous, still interested in what you think you posted.a serf on the land of the British EU Baronshttp://luikkerland.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-32772385383126194672011-05-27T13:57:02.503-07:002011-05-27T13:57:02.503-07:00PC: Agree totally with your second para! There is ...PC: Agree totally with your second para! There is also to consider the 'hold' party leaders have on their party and MPs whereby the fodder have to put party before country and constituents, plus the fact we should not be asked to elect fodder!<br /><br />Re your third, now you know what identity works - please return!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-58835358015022210692011-05-27T13:49:39.853-07:002011-05-27T13:49:39.853-07:00There are all kinds of possible variations on this...There are all kinds of possible variations on this theme from simple to complex.<br /><br />The key point is to break away from the 'trust us, we will put everything right, we know what you want' party system followed by the 'thanks for your vote, now get lost for five years' and the incessant tinkering with everything. We need to be able to accept or reject specifics, especially spending and tax raising, that is the only truly democratic system.<br /><br />I don't often respond here, very occasionally and previously anonymously as none of my other identities seemed to work.PeterCharlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-55679635780959554632011-05-27T13:33:00.512-07:002011-05-27T13:33:00.512-07:00PC: What an interesting comment! Thank you for you...PC: What an interesting comment! Thank you for your visit as it is, from memory, your first?<br /><br />Can see one or two complications and contradictory problems - need to consider and length and if possible, time permitting, come back to you.<br /><br />Will agree with your last para - I too can see policies in each party (however no doubt one policy may well negate one from another party - but hey ho), but not one party with which I agree in total - and such a party could never exist, as I'm sure you would accept.WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-17902524906733019412011-05-27T13:26:22.506-07:002011-05-27T13:26:22.506-07:00I agree we need to get politicians per se out of t...I agree we need to get politicians per se out of the mix, both local and national. My solution is that there no longer be official political parties and general elections effectively be scrapped. Instead of voting for parties we should vote once a year for Bills, published in detail and open to public debate, properly costed etc. and a provision that the sponsors of the Bill, could be a party, an organisation, a corporation, even a private individual, are personally and jointly liable if those costings are wrong. Similarly the budget should be voted on annually, broken down into detail and the details voted on.<br /><br />There are policies from almost every party I could support with the proper implementation, but there is no party that has a majority of policies that I would support, nor am I happy for the politicians to decide implementation of those I do.PeterCharlesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-69453904241974306392011-05-27T13:25:24.610-07:002011-05-27T13:25:24.610-07:00TFE: I have a blogger spam filter? Really? Where? ...TFE: I have a blogger spam filter? Really? Where? And does spam have an integrated homing device for certain comments?<br /><br />Seriously, never had anyone complain their comment did not get past word verification.......WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-7021030882630997362011-05-27T13:19:49.154-07:002011-05-27T13:19:49.154-07:00"The fact you would not post my comment about..."The fact you would not post my comment about North shows" <br /><br />Is it stuck in the blogger spam filter?The Filthy Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584236558282159183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-40049369183747623162011-05-27T13:13:56.593-07:002011-05-27T13:13:56.593-07:00W42: Thanks for that piece of sensible and reasona...W42: Thanks for that piece of sensible and reasonable commenting!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-56823794710582525622011-05-27T13:11:53.114-07:002011-05-27T13:11:53.114-07:00JH: I am reminded of the words of Ghandi about bei...JH: I am reminded of the words of Ghandi about being ignored.....<br /><br />serf: You have, to a certain extent, lost me...... The fact that all politicians are not trusted is a reasonable starting point for the belief that such an animal exists in the first place, bearing in mind our experiences to date?<br /><br />Anon: I haven't the faintest idea of what you complain. I do not control comments in that providing word verification is completed successfully, comments are automatically posted by blogger.<br /><br />In view of that I presume you retract your comments about scum, bottling and loser? Thank You.<br /><br />serf: see previous response please?WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-27474009579438108532011-05-27T13:07:32.851-07:002011-05-27T13:07:32.851-07:00"must have been a technical hitch?"
Blo..."must have been a technical hitch?"<br /><br />Blogger has been messing up erratically and inconsistently for over a week.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-26932963841390184522011-05-27T12:31:49.015-07:002011-05-27T12:31:49.015-07:00I am sure that there must have been a technical hi...I am sure that there must have been a technical hitch? I for one would like to see what Anon posted. I hope that you can recover his/her post. Ta.a serf on the land of the British EU Baronshttp://luikkerland.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-34130954703086250612011-05-27T12:27:46.904-07:002011-05-27T12:27:46.904-07:00The fact you would not post my comment about North...The fact you would not post my comment about North shows that you are as bad as the scum you want to change.<br /><br />My comment was not that bad but you have bottled it you loser.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-3887726021803940872011-05-27T12:27:45.215-07:002011-05-27T12:27:45.215-07:00A leading voice claiming no leader will come is no...A leading voice claiming no leader will come is not to be followed. How typical of this age that it does not believe in a man that cannot be corrupted, and frankly, therein lies the problem. It indicates corruption even without power; widespread corruption that means the holy grail - if it happens to be an lowly egg cup - will never be the vessel of choice.a serf on the land of the British EU baronsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-21567956999471185052011-05-27T11:41:19.992-07:002011-05-27T11:41:19.992-07:00I think they're well aware of how we feel. Ju...I think they're well aware of how we feel. Just ignoring it.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-2320376449568485732011-05-27T11:21:31.820-07:002011-05-27T11:21:31.820-07:00TFE Thanks - I'll put you down as a convert an...TFE Thanks - I'll put you down as a convert and first member!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-81314423863173899492011-05-27T11:06:25.402-07:002011-05-27T11:06:25.402-07:00I could go with that. makes sense to me. I'd b...I could go with that. makes sense to me. I'd be quite glad to get rid of my MP. I've never had him grace my doorstep to ask for my vote, and when I've written to him it takes months for a bland "Don't rock the Boat" type reply.The Filthy Engineerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07584236558282159183noreply@blogger.com