tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post7546541022587920886..comments2023-09-24T01:25:13.638-07:00Comments on Witterings from Witney: The 'new' Conservative 'Eurosceptic' MovementWitteringsfromWitneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-37546572185155901282011-09-14T01:53:12.807-07:002011-09-14T01:53:12.807-07:00c: fair comment...............c: fair comment...............WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-83783106121688613312011-09-13T16:19:21.575-07:002011-09-13T16:19:21.575-07:00"If Anthony Browne and George Eustice really ..."If Anthony Browne and George Eustice really believe all this crap, ............ they should be in Broadmoor.<br /><br />I think there are probably all sorts of motivations for MPs to support this group.<br /><br />The idea that EU reform is possible so the UK picks whatever it wants is very seductive; like the idea which occasionally recurs that it's possible to turn a gallon of water into petrol by adding 20p worth of chemicals.<br /><br />Other people think it's something in the right direction and better than nothing. <br /><br />I'm sure that many realise this has the at least tacit approval of the Whips' Office and it won't harm their careers to be associated with it, as long as they don't get carried away. They are watching the conductor's baton very carefully. If it looks like developing into a call for action which has to be complied with, it will be trodden on or directed to fizzle out.<br /><br />I see it as a tendency spotted and rather than stamped on, it's been deliberately cultivated as a useful red-herring/safety valve.<br /><br />As for Eustice, I'm not sure, I doubt he's entirely cynical, but far from completely genuine. He's watching the conductor's baton too.<br /><br /><br />Generally, as I've said before, I don't think it's possible to get out of the EU, or address the problems of which the EU is just a part, by some political party or section of the Westminster government, having a great idea of leaving the EU, or changing it and things take their course as a majority see the sense of it. External events will be required to drive things.<br /><br />Never forget that our government, forgetting the party political mask at Westminster, sees itself as the EU regional government of the UK and likes it that way.<br /><br />Palin has articulated something significant and radical. To put things in another context, the Europlastics are as credible as a LibLabCon group attempting to embrace Palin's ideas without going too far. i.e. talking about them within the strict limits of not doing anything about them and talking them away. Well possibly urging the putting in place of a QUANGO to monitor increasing corporatism.cosmicnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-10699792287510992792011-09-13T10:50:37.212-07:002011-09-13T10:50:37.212-07:00Or: Could not agree more!
Anon: As for comment to...Or: Could not agree more!<br /><br />Anon: As for comment to Or - ie agreed!<br /><br />TT: I should like to repatriate some from Westminster. I don't want my MP voting on issues without consulting me.....I wish no longer to have my autonomy restricted by his taking my assent for granted. Is that possible ?<br />I want a line veto on how my taxes are spent."<br /><br />You can, it is, you can.<br /><br />You may like Constitution (4) to appear later ce soir, hopefully!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-3442429599433276132011-09-13T09:15:15.612-07:002011-09-13T09:15:15.612-07:00Permanent Political Class is pure Plato's Repu...Permanent Political Class is pure Plato's Republic and his obsession with <i> Ideas </i> and <i> Forms </i> and the need to create <i> Guardians </i> as a Ruling Caste to be an hereditary elite.<br /><br />Monnet was in essence a Fascist just like de Gaulle, and wanted a Permanent Elite to run the Project just as the Security Council has 5 Permanent Members at the UN.<br /><br />Repatriation of Powers is a fascinating concept; I should like to repatriate some from Westminster. I don't want my MP voting on issues without consulting me.....I wish no longer to have my autonomy restricted by his taking my assent for granted.<br /><br />Is that possible ?<br /><br />I want a line veto on how my taxes are spent.<br /><br />Since the EU has Education within its sights, how does Anthony Browne propose to stop plans for harmonisation of Education Curriculum in the EU and can he name the multitude of projects already under way to that end ?TomTomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-29478969948936249142011-09-13T08:28:58.004-07:002011-09-13T08:28:58.004-07:00"The bottom line is this : the current state ..."The bottom line is this : the current state of economic affairs is reflective of a growing and entrenched super-class which lives in an entirely different world than what we would consider the “middle and upper-middle” classes (doctors, engineers, mechanics,<br />scientists, machinists, and other productive professionals).<br /><br />Forget about the poor for a moment; the super-class is now parasitically sucking out money from the productive classes of society. The economic crisis in the world exists precisely because these oligarchs and plutocrats desire to keep their unsustainable wealth models which rely upon not paying the majority of capital for productive labor."<br /><br />Sarah Palin's speech will resonate around the world.<br /><br />http://www.pakalertpress.com/2011/04/26/cnns-fareed-zacharia-the-plutocrats-poodle/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-81705809188196296482011-09-13T07:00:04.818-07:002011-09-13T07:00:04.818-07:00"I have borrowed the phrase 'permanent po..."I have borrowed the phrase 'permanent political class' from a speech by Sarah Palin."<br /><br /> --------------------------------<br /><br />One of many worthy of borrowing. If this woman could sweep into power then back up her excellent rhetoric, the World really could change for the better.Oldrightiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03192587284458430556noreply@blogger.com