tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post2679305659965966670..comments2023-09-24T01:25:13.638-07:00Comments on Witterings from Witney: Romans 12:19WitteringsfromWitneyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-60584130627644044442011-07-09T02:31:43.352-07:002011-07-09T02:31:43.352-07:00AtO Understand - and as you wish. I would however ...AtO Understand - and as you wish. I would however say that there are examples in war where individuals have been sacrificed for the greater good. And this matter of governance, by and how whoever, is a war.WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-89300022324861020012011-07-09T01:50:17.099-07:002011-07-09T01:50:17.099-07:00WfW, Whilst I understand what you are saying, I fe...WfW, Whilst I understand what you are saying, I feel we must agree to disagree and not just for the reasons I gave above. <br /><br />It is too perilously close to my perceived moto of the EU. <b><i>We sacrifice the individual for the greater good of the masses.</i></b>Alfred the Ordinaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806612975119244680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-62424415047955198592011-07-08T23:44:18.982-07:002011-07-08T23:44:18.982-07:00AtO: Better that a few suffer from the cancer of r...AtO: Better that a few suffer from the cancer of retribution than the masses suffer from the cancer of slavery?WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-37014594721997141362011-07-08T14:58:50.836-07:002011-07-08T14:58:50.836-07:00WitteringsfromWitney said...
"AtO: Personal r...WitteringsfromWitney said...<br /><i>"AtO: Personal retribution may well do long term damage but that damage cannot be as detrimental as that which we are suffering now."</i><br /><br /><b>True</b>, in that the damage is grave: <b>False</b> in that personal retribution is like a cancer that eats away at the heart, but only of the perpetrator.Alfred the Ordinaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806612975119244680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-29665066344631024032011-07-08T14:45:51.934-07:002011-07-08T14:45:51.934-07:00AtO: Personal retribution may well do long term da...AtO: Personal retribution may well do long term damage but that damage cannot be as detrimental as that which we are suffering now.<br /><br />a5759: You turn the other cheek if you want - me I'm all for re-arranging its shape and form as that will be the only lesson by which they will learn.<br /><br />TT: Very good point.WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-16114002335745934592011-07-08T11:58:40.731-07:002011-07-08T11:58:40.731-07:00it is now after a nation's identity.
Really ...<i>it is now after a nation's identity. </i><br /><br />Really ? When Nestle acquired Rowntree in 1986 it took quite a while for Nestle to appear on chocolate bars and Rowntree to be reserved for jellies.......that is how takeovers work.....who recalls that Focus DIY was once called Do-It-All owned by Boots/W H Smith or that Newcastle Brown is owned by Heineken ?TomTomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-51839563223795408032011-07-08T11:00:03.066-07:002011-07-08T11:00:03.066-07:00Surely the concept of turning one's cheek appl...Surely the concept of turning one's cheek applies here. The most apposite punishment would be to bar them from all public positions for the rest of their lives. Some would be driven round the bend in no time.andy5759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-34785983529152098652011-07-08T03:36:34.453-07:002011-07-08T03:36:34.453-07:00I'm with James Higham here. We are required to...I'm with <b>James Higham</b> here. We are required to establish a justice system which is why the Greek for Judges is such a strong word. They are working as God's representatives and <b>should</b> show the required humility and awe at the temporary power that they have been given. Personal retribution while satisfying in the short term, does long term damage all round. We need to tread warily, however angry we increasingly feel.Alfred the Ordinaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806612975119244680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-35564045738435305852011-07-08T03:13:56.347-07:002011-07-08T03:13:56.347-07:00Now that the EU has stolen sovereignty, it is now ...Now that the EU has stolen sovereignty, it is now after a nation's identity. See EU Referendum.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-21750304411304459802011-07-08T03:12:03.476-07:002011-07-08T03:12:03.476-07:00WW wrote: Would disagree with your comment that th...WW wrote: Would disagree with your comment that the EU stole our nation's sovereignty - surely our politicos handed that to the EU on the proverbial plate?<br /><br />Indeed, that is why I said with complicity of our politicians. However the agenda to steal a nation's sovereignty was the prime agenda of EU founders. The method chosen was to bribe our politicians with important sinecures in the EU. Easiest way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-31453983305288545622011-07-08T02:43:55.584-07:002011-07-08T02:43:55.584-07:00JH: Interesting comment. Have to disagree slightly...JH: Interesting comment. Have to disagree slightly in that I believe a nation's justice and personal retribution are entwined. I do not see how you can have one without the other. Perhaps you may care to explain?<br /><br />DP111: Would disagree with your comment that the EU stole our nation's sovereignty - surely our politicos handed that to the EU on the proverbial plate?<br /><br />TT: Good question!WitteringsfromWitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16026875251366365154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-89096694358227582422011-07-07T22:41:34.426-07:002011-07-07T22:41:34.426-07:00Bombardier is a French-Canadian corporation suppor...Bombardier is a French-Canadian corporation supported by the Ottawa Government whereas BREL was a British Rail Engineering division sold to Bombardier when railways were privatised by a bRitish Government.<br /><br />Siemens & Halske was a private German company specialising in telegraph equipment, railways to supply a Government railway network - the Reichsbahn.<br /><br />The Siemens family also founded the Deutsche Bank AG.<br /><br />Now I am lost on British politicians who once created ICI in 1926 to protect British dyes and munitions from the dominance of Germany's IG Farben.<br /><br />Just why did Thatcher's Conservatives sell us all out ?TomTOmnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-18933837454723222812011-07-07T13:27:24.380-07:002011-07-07T13:27:24.380-07:00From the above: This must be the biggest theft in ...From the above: This must be the biggest theft in history - stealing a nation from under the noses of a people.<br /><br />How was the GREAT SOVEREIGNTY ROBBERY accomplished? <br /> <br />It was done by normal political machinations - bribery and patronage, nothing unusual about it. Its normal practice. <br /><br />It was done openly with the complicity of a nation's political elite, by bribing them with highly paid political posts in the EU, in the event (certain) of their losing their parliamentary post in an election. <br /><br />When one thinks about it, such a bribe is practically irresistible to a politician, for to lose political office is the greatest catastrophe that can befall any politician. To a politician, acquiring patronage, then excercising patronage, is one of the mains reasons of political office - it is also one way to remain in office.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-15049189753991815872011-07-07T13:18:21.111-07:002011-07-07T13:18:21.111-07:00But there is "Render unto Caeser .."
Th...But there is "Render unto Caeser .."<br /><br />That is we have to do what is required to keep a functioning state in the best interests of its citizens. <br /><br />The EU is a criminal conspiracy whose main criminal acts were in the theft of a nation's sovereignty. This must be the biggest theft in history - stealing a nation from under the noses of a people. Therefore, bringing the thieves before a court is perfectly acceptable in the theological sense. <br /><br />"Judge not, that ye be not judged" pertains to moral and spiritual judgement, and not to this earthly kingdom for criminal offences. How can it be otherwise, for if Jesus advocated this, and it was implemented, it would lead to the complete breakdown of society. That would be against the God's law.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8861279106331108648.post-92191435426954249922011-07-07T13:05:06.901-07:002011-07-07T13:05:06.901-07:00It's an interesting one - retribution and just...It's an interesting one - retribution and justice. If they are not brought to account, this becomes impunity. If they are - well there is that verse. I think there's a difference between a nation's justice and personal retribution.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.com